Report on the second (final) examination supervision
Dmitri Blizniuc, Chisinau, entrepreneur, teacher, musician, married, 3 children.
I passed the 2nd examination supervision to Natalia Spokoinyi and Dr. Detlef Beier on May 3, 2023. The client was Natalia Z. from Thailand.
Request: What should I do in order to recover from eczema and herpes. Roles: Natalia’s Deputy – Melek Symptom “Infection in the Blood” – Yana Great-great-grandmother – Maria Great-great-grandmother's Victim, which at the moment had to be looked at – Alina The highest for Natalia is the Will of the Universe.
Natalia has constant eczema on her feet and palms. In addition, after the first supervising constellation, where a venereal disease was mentioned, it turned out that Natalia had herpes on her genitals. Eczema is about 10 years old, herpes is 6 years old. Medical treatment failed. Natalia also tried non-traditional therapies, including fasting. It only helped for a short period of time. Today, the symptoms of eczema and herpes are controlled by the daily use of drugs, otherwise terrible inflammation and itching occur. Natalia’s desire was to give up medicines, but at the same time to have a clean body, so that she could wear any clothes and shoes without embarrassment and freely contact people, especially men.
The beginning of the constellation passed quickly, partly everything that we did at the previous constellation was repeated: we introduced the Client’s Deputy, then the “Infection in the Blood” Symptom. The symptom this time has changed, before it was “Bubble with Pus”. Here herpes played a role, as a venereal disease, which is powerfully associated with blood. Natalia saw something black in the blood in the Symptom, and according to the deputies, this black circulated throughout the body.
According to the genogram, we came to the great-great-grandmother through the line of dad, grandmother, great-grandfather. It is known about the great-great-grandmother that she was of gypsy blood, possessed the skills of black magic. And according to the previous constellation, it was known that the great-great-grandmother, using her skills, was probably involved in the death of the person whom she most likely took revenge on.
The victim was likely infected with syphilis after sexual contact with a human sent to it by her great-great-grandmother using black magic. And in today’s constellation, the emphasis was on working with the Victim, which now had to be looked at, because the symptoms of herpes are directly related to what it had to go through.
The Victim which now had to be looked at was introduced into the constellation. Natalia uttered a resolving phrase to the Victim, in which she showed her regret for what happened to it. A bow was made, Natalia asked for blessings for getting rid of medicines and for a free life with a clean body.
The constellation went very smoothly, despite the difficult request and dynamics in the client’s family, partly thanks to Natalia Spokoinyi, who turned on at the right moment when it felt heavy. In the end, it became clear that Natalia Z. still has to work on her mother’s side, because Symptom did not completely let go of the client. A lot of work was done with a very difficult request, which involved the entire family system of Natalia, and despite this, the client was satisfied.
It is very pleasant that Dr. Detlef Beier and my supervisor Natalia Spokoinyi were also pleased, which meant for me the passing of the supervisory constellation. I am very happy and thank everyone who was involved in my success. And also thanks to Natalia Z. for the trust and for the opportunity to do such a great job.
Melek Shaylan, Ankara, musician, economist, dance therapist, entrepreneur, mother of 4 children
I took the 2nd examination supervision to Natalia Spokoynaya and Dr. Detlef Beier on May 3, 2023. The client was Elena K. from Germany.
Request: What can I do to build quality relationships with men? Roles: Elena's representative — Yana Symptom "Mummy" - Maria Great-grandmother — Alina The highest for Elena is God
Elena had a request on the test constellation about the Magic Circle in which she was. She changed the request twice. But, having chosen the main thing, she stopped at relationships with men.
She repeats the same scenario in her life: at first everything is fine, then either an ex-wife, or mother, or mistress interferes in their relationship. They begin to conjure so that the man breaks up with Elena. The horror begins. Elena becomes a stranger to her beloved, fear appears. A man becomes an aggressor.
I immediately introduced Elena’s representative, because I felt a heavy energy. Natalia Spokoyniy (NS) and Alina helped to choose the representative.
Elena’s representative feels the wire between her legs and compares it to the umbilical cord. On the word “sorcery” – it moves away from the wire, and on “faith in God” – it returns to its place.
Choosing the name of the Symptom, Elena describes the desert, dehydration, loneliness, tightness. She notices that she has been bandaged. She’s like a mummy, a Living Mummy! The representative of the Symptom of the Living Mummy is also chosen together with the NS.
Symptom Living Mummy says that it was she who bandaged Elena with a wire. Elena’s representative sees a large Mummy, which wraps her in “magic circles”. After the resolving phrases, the Mummy pushes Elena’s representative aside. At the same time, Elena’s representative is smiling.
After that, we go to the Family System together with the Mummy and see which of the ancestors it points to. Since it is very difficult to overcome the effect of the so-called black magic, NS and Alina helped, and we came to our paternal and maternal great-grandmother. Elena talks about her great-grandmother Marina. And suddenly she remembers that her grandmother Catherine married her grandfather pregnant and perhaps not from him, so great-grandmother Marina may not be her own great-grandmother. NS immediately said to introduce the representative of the native Great-Grandmother without a name. For me, this was an insight!
Great-grandmother feels like a mummy in a black shroud. Why? NS enters the role of great-grandmother (along with Alina) to help and tells the story. The great-grandmother most likely loved and was going to marry her beloved, but it seems that with the help of witchcraft she was “harassed” and married to an unloved rich man, it seems, a criminal. In this marriage, she felt half-dead, like in a shroud. Most likely, she gave birth to Elena’s dad from this criminal. So this is the price of her life.
Elena bowed to her great-grandmother, bowed with love and respect to all the hard things that she had to endure. We have accelerated time by a factor of 10 to the 40th power. Because we are talking about black magic. She asked for a blessing for quality relationships with men, mutual love, harmony and happiness. After that, Great-grandmother gave Elena warmth, self-determination, a hint for good men.
After the resolving phrases with which the NS helped me, the representative of the Great-Grandmother felt relieved. She remarked that it was very important to her that someone look at this horrible story. I really liked that Elena’s representative was delighted to meet his own great-grandmother.
That concludes the constellation. Elena rated constellation at 10. This made me very happy. After that, I gave her homework. NS noticed my progress in constellation work and praised me for taking into account all my previous mistakes and remarks.
I liked how constellation went: I managed to complete all the tasks on time and with maximum organization. Of course, with the help of NS. I was attentive to every detail, followed the progress of work and my feelings. I tried not to miss anything important. I am especially grateful to NS for a valuable hint that helped me decide on the choice of direction for the family of Elena’s mother. At the peer group, we went to the line of Elena’s father, there was also a lot of heavy things. But the constellation move confirmed the request and demonstrated that we were on the right track, guided by the right dynamics. All this resonated with Elena, she could barely hold back her tears, so our efforts were justified and we did a really important job. Now I feel satisfied with the constellation and ready for a new one!
I would like to express my sincere gratitude to NS for the training provided. Despite the difficulties that I overcame, combining hard work in my main specialty, mastering the work on the computer (completely new to me), new knowledge and skills and family responsibilities, I was able to master such an amazing profession and feel confident in it. What’s more, feel the magic and “taste” of the constellation work. The result of the training was amazing, and I feel proud of my achievements.
The NS methodology was assertive and demanding, but at the same time it was fast and effective. I am grateful to NS for studying, help, support, explanations, sometimes for the emotionally heightened tone that made me think faster, and for the praise that gave me hope for success. Thank you NS for helping me reach my potential and achieve the desired results.
Aleksandra Berestova, Lisbon, professional coach, psychologist, entrepreneur
Before describing the examination constellation, I want to note the following separately.
- Length of examination constellation – 30 minutes. Since the supervising unit was completely devoted to the practice of constellation during this time, at the exam I felt comfortable in terms of timing. Special satisfaction I feel that in just 30 minutes it is possible to make a quality work for the client on the result.
- Before the exam, all students had the opportunity to meet the client in advance at the peer-group and to coach the request and all necessary constellation tests. It helped a lot during the exam, thanks to Natalia for this opportunity.
- All the time before the exam, Natalia was in touch and there was the opportunity to get advice on questions for the exam.
At the exam I conducted a constellation for the client from Russia called Anna. Below I give a description of the constellation.
Request: What I have to do to overcome the fear of manifesting in the world. Roles: Anna G - a client Yana is Anna G’s representative. Melek is a symptom “face in the dirt” Alina - grandmother The Highest value: God
The situation. Anna trained as a psychologist and wants to start declaring herself as a professional including in social media – to write posts, go live, etc. During coaching it turned out that now the fear is rated at 8 but wants at 5. And before going live, the client is bodily restrained.
- Introducing Yana as a representative of the client and Melek as a symptom.
Yana feels as if something bends her to the ground, does not give a look up, a very bright feeling in the chest – fear, but even more shame. It’s like something’s just clung and sitting there.
When discussing the name of the symptom, my phrase “As in a dirt face” responded very much, so they called the symptom “face in the dirt”. N.S. noticed that when there is so much energy and so much response, it is better to take it directly by the name of the symptom.
When Melek was introduced as a symptom in the constellation, it was felt everywhere. And it can manifest in different kinds, for example, as human rumor, public opinion.
The resolving phrases are, “My symptom “face in the dirt”, I can see you. Despite the fact that I’m having a hard time with you, and you don’t let me claim to be a professional, I can’t go live and write posts, because with my brilliant mind, I know, you’re showing me at someone very important. And for that, I thank you”.
- I’m introducing the person into the constellation the symptom points at.
The genogram showed a symptom on the father-grandmother side. The client told me that she discovered in her youth that the man she thought was her father was not her father. That’s why there’s no information about Dad or Grandma.
N.S.: We specify what her patronymic is. The patronymic of the native father – it means that he is not excluded from the system.
We introduced the paternal grandmother. She feels a great deal of shame and that something has happened that has completely changed her life, and it has been very difficult and painful for her.
The resolving phrases are, “My dear paternal grandmother, hello. Now I realize that my symptom “face in the dirt” is tied to you. You seem to have experienced an event in your life where you were very embarrassed in public, and it completely changed your life. And it looks like I’m trying to save your life right now and bear a symptom “face in the dirt” for you. And just as you have since then in your life, I’m afraid to go public so I don’t have to face shame and fear. But if you hadn’t had this hard life, I wouldn’t have been born.”
Bow: “Dear my paternal Grandma, I bow with love and respect to all the hard things you’ve been through and what’s important to me.”
Blessing: “Dear my paternal Grandma, please bless me from heaven or from the earth to feel that I can manifest myself feeling confident and calm instead of feeling that I’m about to fall into the dirt face, so that I could express myself to a wide audience and I could feel happy, freely declaring myself as a professional.
Grandmother transmits a resource of calm, confidence, support. Felt in the chest.
- Removed all representatives from their roles.
At the end of the constellation, the client estimated the constellation at 7 out of 10.
Homework for the client:
- revise the constellation and describe the constellation;
- repeat the resolving phrases to the symptom and grandmother.
My observations on my work in the constellation are:
- did everything clearly on the structure;
- Natalya’s comments on the name for the symptom were very timely;
- felt the resistance of the client to go on the side of the father – in perspective I offered a job on the feeling of connection with the father.
Van Yana, Moscow; brand manager and producer of shoots in the fashion industry
The first exam was passed, and I can confidently say that the process of passing the exam itself emphasized how much I have grown as a person and as a professional for these 2 years (I also completed the basic course).
The exam itself went very smoothly for me, I was focused on the process and on the result for the client.
Before the exam, Natalia Spokoyniy gives students the opportunity to meet with their client in a pier-group. That is most useful, because you can prepare for the exam: get to know the client, use coaching to test their request, make a test constellation. All this saves time on the exam and makes it possible to pass it successfully.
My client came to the peer group with a request: to establish a contact with herself and to integrate herself harmoniously into this life. We did a constellation and looked at the fact that she felt threatened by the contact with the outside world, so she closes herself off from it. Diana was able to see the reason for her request, after which she felt it was hard for her to go there yet. Therefore, the decision was made to go to the exam with a different request.
The request on the exam was: to become in demand for solvent clients. She is a practicing psychologist; she encountered a situation where she had clients coming to her for free or for a small fee that she was not satisfied with. As a result, she wanted to start valuing herself and getting decent money for her work.
During the coaching, Diane talks about how she sometimes finds it difficult to voice the price because she doesn’t feel her value to the client for that amount of money. Which confirms from the role of the representative of the Client, when she feels the compression in her solar plexus and staggers unsteadily in place.
The client responds to these feelings, and I suggest putting the figure of the Symptom. Diana gives him the name Clamping. The Symptom figure feels large and completely overlaps the Client’s representative figure.
The Symptom in the genogram pointed to great-grandmother Mary in Mom’s line. The Symptom figure at this time passes to the great-grandmother figure and covers her mouth, saying that it will be easier if she stays silent. She adds that great-grandmother has no possibility of screaming and cannot break free.
The figure of the Client’s representative comes to life, and she becomes interested in what’s going on.
The figure of Maria’s great-grandmother, entering the role, feels that she is small and sitting in the barn where she suddenly finds herself. And she feels that she cannot say anything here because she feels threatened. She must remain silent.
Getting feedback from the representatives, I tried to get to the essence of the situation that had happened to my great-grandmother. And at this point Natalia helped a lot when she intervened and said that she felt that it looked like great-grandmother had been sold for debts.
This resonates with the representative figure of Great-grandmother and with Symptom. The Symptom thus feels like a man with money in his pockets.
The resolving phrases to the great-grandmother figure made Diana understand that her Symptom request was related to a difficult situation from her great-grandmother’s life. And that it was difficult for her to name a price for her services because her great-grandmother in that situation was dangerous to speak. In addition, she was devalued as a person by being sold for debt.
After bowing to her great-grandmother, the client asked for her blessing for solvent clients to come into her life with ease. After that, she felt lightness and freedom of movement in her body, having received a resource from her grandmother. The Symptom figure shrinks and goes to her grandmother, while the Client’s representative figure feels lightness and stands confidently on her feet. Diana gives the constellation a score of 9 out of 10.
After the constellation, Natalia gives feedback in which she appreciates my work and makes a few comments on the details of the process. I should have paid more attention to the request and its realism for the Client (deadlines and numbers) and the need to mentally feel the client’s great-grandmother behind her back before taking a resource from her. I am happy with the process and the result the client received.
I would also like to say a special thank to Natalia Spokoinyi for the extra supervision sessions she conducted with the group to prepare for the exam. This is very valuable, because practice under the supervision of a teacher gives you the opportunity to see your work from the outside, and the extra time is a great opportunity to gain experience and refine the details.
I’m looking forward to the second exam.
Report on the first examination supervision
Dmitri Blizniuc Chisinau; entrepreneur, teacher, musician, married, 3 children.
I passed the 1st examination supervision to Natalia Spokoinyi on April 26, 2023. The client was Natalia Z. from Thailand.
Request: What should I do in order to recover from eczema.
Roles: Natalia’s Deputy – Melek Symptom “Bubble with Pus” – Yana Grandmother Maria – Alexandra Great-great-grandmother – Alina Great-great-grandmother's Victim, which at the moment had to be looked at – Maria
The highest for Natalia is the Will of the Universe.
Natalia has constant eczema on her feet and palms. The first manifestation was about 10 years ago after a scandal with the boss at work about money. Then periodically eczema appeared after stress. And for about 5 years eczema is constant, sometimes it goes away, then it gets worse again, regardless of stress.
The constellation took place according to the classic version of working with the Symptom. A Client’s Deputy and his Symptom Bubble with Pus were introduced into the Field. After the resolving phrase to Symptom according to the genogram, we came to Grandmother Maria by dad. In this constellation, we worked along the line of the father, although Natalia Spokoinyi also felt in this request the influence from the line of the Client’s mother.
I would like to note the preparatory work that students do with their clients without Natalia Spokoinyi in a pir group a few days before the exam. This is very useful for both clients and us students. We get to know each other, clarify the request and make a test constellation in order to determine how to work more efficiently.
It was the work on the pir-group that gave a good impetus to the huge work that we did on the exam. From the pir-group itself, I already knew that I would have to work with black magic, which, by the way, I had never met in practice before. According to the Client, her great-grandfather had gypsy roots, and one of his ancestors could practice black magic. And at the end of the constellation at the pir group, Natalia’s Deputy said that she smelled carrion and it was about someone dead. Natalia confirmed that this resonates to her, most likely there are murders and deaths in the family, and that she herself has the ability to heal and magic.
In the course of working working with Grandma Maria and Bubble with Pus, when the deputies confirmed the presence of black magic, Natalia Spokoinyi immediately joined the constellation and advised me to work with Maria’s Grandma, i.e. with Natalia’s Great-great-grandmother. Pretty soon, Natalia Spokoinyi interrupted our work, as she sensed an important dynamic and decided to share this information. She said that it looked like Great-great-grandmother, most likely out of jealousy, “conjured” the man she was in love with, to meet a woman of easy virtue, who infected him with a venereal disease, from which he likely died.
Then we went to the Victim, which at the moment had to be looked at. It turned out that the Victim was dying painfully from abscesses and wounds on his body. The cause of ulcers and wounds could be a venereal disease. According to Great-great-grandmother (Alina), the victim was a man she loved, but due, most likely, jealousy, using her magic skills, she put a woman under her “beloved person”, who infected him with syphilis, which caused the appearance of abscesses, wounds on the body and led to death. Thus, the information of Natalia Spokoinyi was confirmed.
Permissive phrases were uttered to the Great-great-grandmother and briefly to the Victim, bows were also made to them, Natalia asked them for a blessing.
In the process of constellation, Natalia did not comment on what she saw, but said that all this deeply resonates to her. But it is surprising that after the constellation, Natalia left a review in which she wrote: “I must say that the problems with contact with men and STDs (sexually transmitted disease) are since the beginning of my sexual life, and qualified doctors shrugged their hands, not understanding why my body does not respond to treatment in the same way as in practice with other people.”
The constellation lasted 70 minutes, exactly twice as long as the maximum required for constellation on the exam. However, seeing the heavy dynamics and the presence of black magic, Natalia Spokoinyi made an exception for me and Natalia and allowed me to go deep into the constellation and squeeze out the maximum resource for the Client. In my opinion, we succeeded in doing this, since N highly appreciated the constellation work, putting 20 on a scale from 0 to 10! Such a good result was achieved thanks to the Client herself, who allowed us to go far into the System, also thanks to Natalia Spokoinyi and the well-coordinated work of the constellator and deputies. Despite the excitement of the exam, it was surprising for everyone that they managed to hit exactly those points that are most sensitive for Natalia and are exactly related to the request for this constellation. Here are a couple more quotes from Natalia’s review: “I want to say that a short constellation allowed me to see the whole chain of relationships between my diseases and the histories of the family system. After the supervision constellation, I no longer want to cry at the thought of eczema, my reaction became calm, I had clarity about where to go next … Now I have the opportunity to go into a deeper request that became visible after this constellation and work with diseases .”
Natalia Spokoinyi and I recommended that Natalia do another constellation and work with the Victim, but after her recall, I understand that perhaps we can understand why her body did not respond to treatment and help her heal not only from eczema, but also from the effects of STDs.
Thanks to Natalia Spokoinyi, Natalia Z. and deputies for the amazing constellation.
Van Yana, Moscow; brand manager and producer of shoots in the fashion industry
The first exam was passed, and I can confidently say that the process of passing the exam itself emphasized how much I have grown as a person and as a professional for these 2 years (I also completed the basic course).
The exam itself went very smoothly for me, I was focused on the process and on the result for the client.
Before the exam, Natalia Spokoyniy gives students the opportunity to meet with their client in a pier-group. That is most useful, because you can prepare for the exam: get to know the client, use coaching to test their request, make a test constellation. All this saves time on the exam and makes it possible to pass it successfully.
My client came to the peer group with a request: to establish a contact with herself and to integrate herself harmoniously into this life. We did a constellation and looked at the fact that she felt threatened by the contact with the outside world, so she closes herself off from it. Diana was able to see the reason for her request, after which she felt it was hard for her to go there yet. Therefore, the decision was made to go to the exam with a different request.
The request on the exam was: to become in demand for solvent clients. She is a practicing psychologist; she encountered a situation where she had clients coming to her for free or for a small fee that she was not satisfied with. As a result, she wanted to start valuing herself and getting decent money for her work.
During the coaching, Diane talks about how she sometimes finds it difficult to voice the price because she doesn’t feel her value to the client for that amount of money. Which confirms from the role of the representative of the Client, when she feels the compression in her solar plexus and staggers unsteadily in place.
The client responds to these feelings, and I suggest putting the figure of the Symptom. Diana gives him the name Clamping. The Symptom figure feels large and completely overlaps the Client’s representative figure.
The Symptom in the genogram pointed to great-grandmother Mary in Mom’s line. The Symptom figure at this time passes to the great-grandmother figure and covers her mouth, saying that it will be easier if she stays silent. She adds that great-grandmother has no possibility of screaming and cannot break free.
The figure of the Client’s representative comes to life, and she becomes interested in what’s going on.
The figure of Maria’s great-grandmother, entering the role, feels that she is small and sitting in the barn where she suddenly finds herself. And she feels that she cannot say anything here because she feels threatened. She must remain silent.
Getting feedback from the representatives, I tried to get to the essence of the situation that had happened to my great-grandmother. And at this point Natalia helped a lot when she intervened and said that she felt that it looked like great-grandmother had been sold for debts.
This resonates with the representative figure of Great-grandmother and with Symptom. The Symptom thus feels like a man with money in his pockets.
The resolving phrases to the great-grandmother figure made Diana understand that her Symptom request was related to a difficult situation from her great-grandmother’s life. And that it was difficult for her to name a price for her services because her great-grandmother in that situation was dangerous to speak. In addition, she was devalued as a person by being sold for debt.
After bowing to her great-grandmother, the client asked for her blessing for solvent clients to come into her life with ease. After that, she felt lightness and freedom of movement in her body, having received a resource from her grandmother. The Symptom figure shrinks and goes to her grandmother, while the Client’s representative figure feels lightness and stands confidently on her feet. Diana gives the constellation a score of 9 out of 10.
After the constellation, Natalia gives feedback in which she appreciates my work and makes a few comments on the details of the process. I should have paid more attention to the request and its realism for the Client (deadlines and numbers) and the need to mentally feel the client’s great-grandmother behind her back before taking a resource from her. I am happy with the process and the result the client received.
I would also like to say a special thank to Natalia Spokoinyi for the extra supervision sessions she conducted with the group to prepare for the exam. This is very valuable, because practice under the supervision of a teacher gives you the opportunity to see your work from the outside, and the extra time is a great opportunity to gain experience and refine the details.
I’m looking forward to the second exam.
Melek Şhailan Ankara; musician, economist, dance therapist, mother of 4 children
I took my 1st supervision exam with Natalia Spokoinyi on April 22, 1923. The client was Mikhail B. from the United States.
Request: what can I do to express my feelings and thoughts comfortably to myself and others?
Roles: Michael's representative - Alina. Symptom “Stress” - Maria Great-grandfather Semyon - Diana
The highest for Michael is the Universe. Mikhail says that for him, comfort is peace of mind. And now often relationships with others lose common sense, because they treat their duties with indifference. Michael is annoyed by people with their misunderstanding and he often has to emotionally explain to them even their work, while keeping everything under control. He reacts to people as if they were “irritants.” From this, his internal state changes for the worse.
The request was not specific, there was ambivalence in it. When I talked to Michael, I asked him again about this duality. He told me that his condition was very important to him, but I didn’t tell him about it. Natalia noticed the incompatibility in Mikhail’s request itself and therefore asked him who was more important to him – himself or others. I understood what Natalia was talking about, but I couldn’t figure out where the mistake was. I realized later! The request should have sounded like this: “what should I do in order to express my feelings and thoughts comfortably for myself.”
To the wonderful question, on what grounds he, waking up, will notice his changes after the constellation, Mikhail replied generally: “I will not react to my “irritants”. Here I made a gross mistake, not noticing that Mikhail did not answer the question, and I went further. That is, I asked a kind of empty question and just lost time. Natalia interrupted and asked again: “When you wake up, there is no one around you. How do you know that the constellation has helped you?” He replied, “My condition will not change for the worse.”
I made a grave mistake by choosing the direction to the Universe instead of the Will of the Universe. And Natalia explained to everyone the need to understand exactly what we are doing and choose the right words. Michael’s representative turned away from the Will of the Universe by 90 ° and felt the clamp in the solar plexus, fastened his jacket. His representative said he was in a theatrical mood.
Symptom Stress felt lost, Michael felt the same and noticed that he was tired of this Stress. Symptom Stress pinched Michael. After the resolving phrase to Stress, Alina pulled off the veil from her head as part of the symptom. Stress rejoiced that he was seen.
I asked the Symptom to determine who in the System it was pointing to. He pointed to his paternal great-grandfather. After Michael’s resolving phrases, great-grandfather Semyon gave his great-grandson energy, liberation, lightness, forward movement and felt proud of his great-grandson. Michael felt all this too. And Symptom left Michael and went to his great-grandfather.
I ended the constellation at this point. Mikhail rated the constellation at 9. This made me very happy. After that, I gave him homework.
Natalia explained after the constellation about the Circles of Proximity, Responsibility and Influence according to Merilin Murray. She also told me about the diversity of people and the need to find compromises. She advised me to sometimes use humor in difficult situations. She told me that resolving phrases should be shorter and more specific. I drew attention to the fact that my great-grandfather’s stress causes aggression. And I had to voice it. It was very important. And once again she explained to Mikhail and all those present that there was no need to “save” anyone. Everyone will cope with their lives on their own!
After this work, I was angry that there was little time; that, as always, they chose me first, that Natalia interrupted and I was lost. But now I understand that a constellator must be able to work in any conditions, be able to make constellations in a short time, that it is my dynamics to always be the first. What I have to say is much shorter and more precise in formulating everything. And also to be thankful for everything, so now I gradually realize that all this was very useful to me. Thanks to Natalia for the training and the “cold shower” on the exam. Although it is hard, I know that I will remember it with a smile, understanding and gratitude.
Aleksandra Berestova, Lisbon
Before describing the examination constellation, I want to note the following separately.
- The examination constellation lasts 30 minutes. Since the supervising unit was completely devoted to the practice of constellations, during this time, at the exam I felt comfortable in terms of timing. Special satisfaction I feel that in just 30 minutes it is possible to make a quality work for the client on the result.
- Before the exam, all students had the opportunity to meet the client in advance at the peer-group and to provide a coaching of the request and all necessary constellation tests. It helped a lot on the exam, thanks to Natalia for this opportunity.
- All the time before the exam, Natalia was in touch and there was the possibility to get advice on questions for the exam
At the exam I conducted a constellation for the client from Germany, her name was Lana. Below I give a description of the constellation.
Request: What I have to do to attract new employees.
Roles: Maria - representative of a client and her parts Sunshine Melek - employee for an administrator position Natalia - part of the client Light Flux (initially Asterisk) Alina - a symptom Bandage
The highest value: Creator
Initially, the client was very reluctant to say anything about her business and even about the positions for which employees are needed. During the coaching, the client told us that she needed an administrator. She opened her business in 2016 and has been experiencing staff turnover ever since.
N.S.: If the client wants to get a lot, he should also give. And it is the responsibility of the client to give information about herself and about the request in the course of the constellation.
- I am doing a test to determine why employees are leaving.
The representative of the client was Introduced in the constellation, Employee, additionally identified the figure of the workplace (working conditions, salary, the building itself).
To the question, “Why are you leaving Lana? Is it about the workplace or the relationship with Lana?” – The employee went in the direction of the representative.
The resolving phrase of the test was, “My employee, I see you. And I have just seen that you were leaving because of our relationship, not the workplace.”
When I asked to give examples of the employee leaving, the client replied that they always leave the same way – they take sick leave, and then she fires them because she is looking for an employee who will not be sick at all. When I asked if it was real, my client said yes.
- I enter the second part of the client, which will be about clarity.
The part from which she sincerely wants to hire an employee (this part exists, otherwise she would not come to the constellation). That part feels like a teenage girl.
When I asked to name her two parts, the client said the names:
for the first part was the Sunshine
for the second part was the Asterisk, which in the course of the constellation was finally called Light Flux.
From the role of the representative the part of the Light Flux says that the part of the Sunshine is very controlling and overwhelming. At this point, the client doesn’t want to recognize that part.
The employee reacts to this part, it is attractive to him.
The resolving phrase is: now I see that there are two parts of me – Sunshine and Light Flux. The part of Sunshine shines so bright that its light suppresses the second part of the Light Flux and prevents it from shining and attracting the right employees with its light.
- I’m entering a symptom.
The symptom showed that acting on the client, he closes her eyes like a bandage, and doesn’t let her see anything.
N.S.: checked and the symptom goes on the line mother – grandfather – great grandmother.
The resolving phrase is my symptom Bandage, I see you. And even though it’s hard with you, you show me something or someone very important. And for that, I thank you. When my time comes, I will look at you.
- We removed from the roles of all representatives.
At the end of the constellation, the client could not say how useful the constellation was – from 0 to 10.
Homework for the client:
- Revise the constellation and describe the constellation;
- to find out from mother about her grandfather Alexei and great-grandmother, his mother;
- repeat the resolving phrases and try to come into contact with its second part of Light Flux.
My observations on the constellation:
- It was very difficult to work with the client, because the client had enormous resistance and something very heavy in the system.
- I feel great satisfaction that I did my job and managed to make the constellation so that the client could withstand and did not fail in the resistance.
- It was especially valuable to show the client the second part of the Light Flux, which is actually about the light in her and the desire for a relationship.
- It is noteworthy that a part of the Light Flux felt itself as a child-teen, it can be assumed that either in adolescence with the client there was an trauma and this part “closed” or it is something systemic and can serve as a prompt for further work with the symptom.
REPORT ON THE SUPERVISION
Dmitri Blizniuc Chisinau
The training of the supervision module, in other words the practical module at the IIS-Berlin, is coming to an end. At the very beginning, like most students, I didn’t quite understand why this module was needed, because there was enough practice in the online course. But the first lesson put everything in its place, and the practice was significantly different from what I had done before. In one session of the supervision module, we were able to conduct 3-4 constellations, which is a lot, given that at first requests for constellations were formed through coaching, and at the end of each constellation there was feedback (discussion of successful moments and not so good moments in the student’s work), on which also took a lot of time.
The most difficult thing for me personally was the time limit – to conduct the constellation in 30 – 40 minutes. On the one hand, you need to slowly analyze the state of the client, his situation, so as not to miss something important, and on the other hand, keep within a maximum of 40 minutes. And this is not much for me, given the amount of work that needs to be done in order to get a result that would suit the client. And if we take into account the fact that constellators usually take on work that psychologists and doctors cannot solve for years, then in this context 40 minutes seem like a drop in the ocean.
However, over time, I realized the charm of such a restrictive framework, which Natalia Spokoinyi tirelessly followed during our work. At such moments, the brain is maximally focused and helps to automatically apply everything that was learned in the online course. Of course, there were mistakes in such work, which, again, Natalia immediately corrected. But each time there were fewer and fewer adjustments, and my skill as a constellator was honed properly.
I also want to note another difficulty that I encountered. This is to stand in all the roles of deputies and at the same time arrange the constellation in such a way that the client cannot lead me aside, which happens very often. And all this is online, which greatly complicates the constellation work. A very rewarding experience.
It turned out that in my report I described only the difficulties, but here it is important to understand that they are for me the most important experience that I gained, because it was they who helped me in becoming a constellator. Actually, this is the positive resource that I received from the supervision module.
Enormous work was done, both by the students and by Natalia Spokoinyi, who strictly and to the point was worried about each student. I express my deep gratitude to the IIS-Berlin Institute, personally to Natalia Spokoinyi and all my fellow students who helped me to improve as a system constellator.
The Supervision Unit is a completely separate unit of work on the course, the most intense and contains 120% of use. I began to it with a special feeling: it seemed that all the theoretical part and training were behind, the most difficult courseworks completed and then there was the practice of skills. In reality, it is an even deeper work with yourself and your professionalism.
How the supervisor block on the online course works: classes are also once a week, but the format changes – if on the main course Natalia gave recommendations for the constellation, showed an example of her work with the members of the group and we deal with various cases, there is a request from the client on the supervision block, there is a participant of the course as a constellator. The student completely conducts the constellation independently, until the end of the time allocated for the constellation (usually, it is 30 minutes, as will be on the exam). Natalia watches the constellation without interfering. After completing the constellation and receiving feedback from the client, Natalia gives her feedback.
Melek Saylan, Ankara
Supervision is a practice, a process of not only learning, but also an effective way to establish yourself as a specialist. I was convinced that the requests in our group, apparently like all people, are the same: diseases, money problems, business, personal life, relationships with relatives, children and so on. And solving the client’s problems, you solve your own.
The root of all problems, as Natalia taught us, is the desire to forget, to “exclude” participants in family trauma from the family system, and they are both victims and perpetrators. And this causes problems for subsequent generations. As a result of the constellation, we found hidden system dynamics. Everything happens quickly, but how much emotion and understanding the constellation brings. The field works like a living thing!
Training me as a specialist to work with constellation goes primarily through personal experience. It is very correct and important that after the theoretical part of the training, Natalia introduced supervision. I got an impulse to move and develop, and then I need to work on mistakes and practice more. The most shocking moment for me was when Natalia led a limited time of 30-35 minutes for constellation. It greatly organizes the brain, memory, focus, and emotional endurance.
For myself, I emphasized several very important points:
- first, a person must clearly formulate his request.
- there should be a minimum of representatives in the constellation.
- you need to feel the energy of the request
- resolving phrases are important (phrases heal a person)
- for the description of the short constellation we give the client one day
- a constellator must see everything volumetrically and be in all roles at the same time
At first I was a beginner, and now I realized that I began to succeed, because when you have a lot of practice, you begin to feel more confident. But when I slow down, Natalia always helps. Her experience, flair and talent are a huge support when working.
I noticed that I could get my problem out there and tell about it without being embarrassed anymore. It becomes easy for me, and it ceases to be a problem.
Supervisions are mutual assistance and exchange of experience in order to improve the skills of all members of our supervision group who have received multiple experience of participating in constellation groups.
I was very pleased to hear from Natalie that I have abilities. So I need to develop.
Berestova Aleksandra, Lisbon, Portugal
The Supervision Unit is a completely separate unit of work on the course, the most intense and contains 120% of use. I began to it with a special feeling: it seemed that all the theoretical part and training were behind, the most difficult courseworks completed and then there was the practice of skills. In reality, it is an even deeper work with yourself and your professionalism.
How the supervisor block on the online course works: classes are also once a week, but the format changes – if on the main course Natalia gave recommendations for the constellation, showed an example of her work with the members of the group and we deal with various cases, there is a request from the client on the supervision block, there is a participant of the course as a constellator. The student completely conducts the constellation independently, until the end of the time allocated for the constellation (usually, it is 30 minutes, as will be on the exam). Natalia watches the constellation without interfering. After completing the constellation and receiving feedback from the client, Natalia gives her feedback.
What I would like to note separately:
1 For the supervision unit, each student gets the opportunity to work out the constellation independently and get Natalia’s feedback at least 3 times.
2 If a student requires additional training and at the end of the supervision block he does not feel ready to go to the exam (as I did), Natalia additionally conducts a class for additional preparation of the student, and this is included in the course cost (without any additional charges). This is very valuable.
3 Since all participants of the group are already at a high level of preparation, much deeper and faster work is proceeding on their requests. Many questions focus on the tensions associated with starting as a systemic constellator. Working as a client for other members of the group is very helpful to cope with the tension and start to practice with their clients.
I am completing the supervision block and taking the exam with confidence and great gratitude for the course.
Van Yana, Moscow
The supervision module was devoted to perfecting the knowledge that had been acquired during the whole period of the course. During the sessions each student had the opportunity to apply his knowledge in practical work with the requests of students and clients coming in.This was valuable because it is only in practice that you really get to know constellations. Because every time a new request and a new client gives you new knowledge and experience.
As a student of an offline and online course I can say that the online constellation process is more complicated because a constellator has to stand in all the roles, feel all the figures, keep track of time and be responsible for the process. Natalia Spokoinyi teaches her students to combine these skills and give maximum benefit in a short period of time.
Meeting the 30-minutes deadline is not an easy task, because that is how much time a student is given to pass an exam. And at that moment you recollect the value of the knowledge repeated by me, brought to automatism, the quintessence of which makes it possible to give the maximum benefit to the client in a short time.
Natalia teaches you to refine your skills by repeating what you have learned in practice over and over again, which allows you to competently build the process of constellation and conduct it in 30 minutes. After each work of the student, Natalia gave her recommendations and supervised the process of constellation, sharing her professional experience.
It was interesting for me to participate in a married couple’s constellation. That’s where I understood how it was possible to work with a common request, but at the same time to take into account the interests of each person individually. The process itself seemed to me very capacious and useful for clients. I want to try it in my practice soon.
During the supervision module, I also reaffirmed two basic rules of the system constellation, which allow you to move the process forward in a difficult moment:
1)Give thanks for everything. Acknowledging and thanking a Symptom figure often influences the course of the constellation.
2)To highlight one’s weakness. When you don’t know what to do next, it has to be said. Bringing clarity to the Field helps the constellation process.
In the supervisory modules it was valuable to watch the progress of the students. How masterfully they lead the client to the solution of his request, using all the knowledge they had acquired in the course. Also how each of them learned how to structure a constellation process.
I am very grateful for the PIR groups. This is very useful practical work and the opportunity to solve my requests. Thanks to PIR groups I understood in practice that it is not always necessary to go straight into a constellation; sometimes coaching for the client and a short feedback from the role of the representative are enough. More often than not the client’s request changes during this work.
I can say that at the end of the training I had learned to feel more deeply, to go into a meta-position, to structure my knowledge, to conduct the process of constellation succinctly and productively.
Maria Kyntoyarova
I did not pay for supervisory classes and postponed the exam to the next year, but Natalia allowed me to attend the supervision and take part as a representative. Three or four constellations and coaching were held at each lesson.
It is especially useful for me to watch Systemic Coaching and sometimes there were such interesting questions during coaching that I discovered something new for myself. For example, if a scoundrel met in the client’s life, you need to tell him that it is given to him for growth and you need to thank that person for letting him understand something through himself.
Also at the supervisory class, we had a constellation of a married couple for the first time. The very technique of conducting was new for us, how to conduct coaching and how to arrange figures. Another very interesting point during this constellation was the following: during coaching, the wife said that her husband controlled her, but according to the way their representatives placed, it became clear that everything was quite the opposite – it was the wife who controlled her husband to notice his control over her. During the constellation, it was clear that the spouses did not hear or understand each other, and they saw it and understood a lot for themselves.
Many thanks to Natalia for allowing me to attend her classes, for worrying about my qualifications. I admire that Natalia cares about the quality of education she gives. I am glad that I was trained with her and I am grateful to her for the quality of knowledge and experience. It’s important to me, too.
Pavel Lupashku, Podolsk Moscow Region
I completed the online module in Moscow and joined the end of the online course of the 9th Stream as a guest. I was lucky enough to attend six meetings of the online course (from February 8 to March 22), which took place on Wednesdays. I also attended two pier group meetings. During that time I was able to learn what an online constellation is and the difference with offline one. I myself did 1 constellation at a peer group. I had 3 personal constellations and one family constellation during this time.
I liked and was surprised by the way Natalia organized the training process online and how she was able to combine the possibilities of systemic constellation and modern information technology. Here, too, as in offline constellations, there is a circle at the beginning and at the end of the training day.
A constellator can work online almost as well as offline, namely: do coaching before the constellation, choose representatives with the client, place them and explain to them how to place other representatives in their room, say resolving phrases, make bows and take the representatives out of the constellation. The most important advantage of online constellations is that they can be done anywhere in the world where there is Internet, Skype or Zoom.
It also struck me that people at a distance enter into roles and feel as if they are next to each other in the same room. I experienced it myself and saw how other students acted in the roles. I liked the express constellations that are done in 30-40 minutes. They are very effective when there is little time, but the matter is urgent and something needs to be done to make the client feel better.
The most powerful thing in the online course was the paired constellation, when Natalia did the constellation for my wife and me. The students started the constellation with Natalya’s accompaniment, but later, when the students were about to finish, Natalya joined in, gave us another 40 minutes of time and the result was a very deep and exemplary work. This benefited my wife and I in the first place, and secondly the students, who were able to see how a professional constellation for the couple was done in an online format.
Immediately after this work, my wife and I felt relieved and our relationship became better. We have more attention and tenderness, I look at and admire my wife differently. Many thanks to Natalia for that.
I am also grateful to Natalia for inviting me to take the online course and for her clarity, persistence, and patience, especially when students sabotaged discipline and student requirements. I, too, was among the saboteurs.
During the online course, I became more patient, understanding, accepting, humble. Before and even during the course, my behavior often was quick-tempered and arrogant. But I managed to cope with myself, admit my mistakes and talk to Natalia about it. Natalia encourages everyone not to hold grievances and resentments inside, but to share their critical comments or emotional experiences with her. I was able to do this, and we both benefited greatly from it. Special thanks to Natalia for such insights and changes.
An online course is not only a profession
An online course is not only about learning how to help other people, not only about a profession, thanks to which a graduate can earn from anywhere in the world working with clients from any country.
The online course is about improving one’s life, about removing limitations, about getting resources from one’s family, about the impulse to development, about joy and lightness on the way to one’s dreams.
Natalia was able to figure out how to adapt the process of constellation to the online format and make the learning process easy, interesting, deep and effective.
I recommend everyone who wants to improve their lives and get an in-demand profession with the possibility to work from home or anywhere in the world to take a training course at IIS Berlin with Natalia Spokoinyi.
REPORT FOR THE MAIN ONLINE COURSE – 9 “SYSTEMIC CONSTELLATIONS AND WORK WITH TRAUMA”
Dmitri Blizniuc Chisinau
I am very glad I completed online training at IIS with Natalia Spokoinyi. Time passed very quickly – I still remember how I filled out the application forms for admission. The baggage of knowledge I received in IIS is the main confirmation for me that I did not spend my time on training in vain.
The most important thing I got on the course was a new look at the world around me. My wife, children, parents, work, and many other things in my life have become different, and more clear and understandable. As a constellator, I understand that nothing changes around a person by itself, as Mahatma Gandhi said: “If you want to change the world, start with yourself.” It was under this motto that every lesson of the online course was held, and the result was not long in coming – life is changing for the better, and you can see how not only my life is changing, but also my fellow students, for whom I am also very happy. In fact, Natalia Spokoinyi has many mottos applicable to learning, but I have singled out, in my opinion, the most important one.
There was a lot of practice at each lesson of the online course, and practice with real people, which was an important component in shaping me as a constellator. I taught theory, understood everything, knew everything, and then there was practice, and practice indicated those places very clearly where you needed to understand more thoroughly. I figured it out, then practised again, and again there were shortcomings that I corrected. And so after each time, I felt more confident in constellation work. The training methodology in terms of achieving high results in a short time at IIS is very well established.
I cannot fail to note the positive changes I have after the constellation, where I was as a client. A lot of painstaking work has borne fruit, and a harmonious atmosphere has formed in my home. And when there is a harmonious atmosphere in the house, then peace and tranquility in the family. It is amazing how the constellation in 1.5 – 2 hours can do what specialists in other fields cannot do for years.
I express my deep gratitude to Natalia Spokoinyi and everyone who contributed to the development of IIS for the opportunity given to me to learn systemic constellations. And also thanks to the 9th stream online course student group and everyone who took part in the practical classes that helped me to form as a constellator.
I wish everyone involved in my training, and especially the leader Natalia Spokoinyi, success in their work and the intensive development of any projects that will help people. I am sure that we will continue to work together in other formats. I’m looking forward to it.
Yana Gudovskaya Moscow
Today I want to summarise my year’s training. After 32 sessions, I can confidently say that my life has changed dramatically and is divided into before and after.
I fell in love with the systemic constellations method at first sight and realised that it is the fastest and most effective way to get what you want in life.
I was looking for an institute with fundamental knowledge that could give me not only knowledge but also practice. And I found it! IIS Berlin met all my expectations. Natalia Spokoyniy is a professional in her field and a person with a capital letter.
The training provides very much for personal growth as well as a good professional base.
The most valuable thing I got out of this course:
- Personal transformation. Changes in the family and professional sphere, personal growth. The changes in my personal experience give me confirmation that it is possible to change my life and come to what I want, which I will transmit to my clients.
- Lots of practice which gives you the opportunity to master the method and hone it immediately on clients. Practice in training, separately in groups, with paying clients. This speeds up the quality and process of learning. It gives you confidence in yourself and in your abilities.
- There is a special friendly atmosphere. There are many students on the course from different countries and cities. We have developed a peculiar bond between us over the year. We often meet each other outside of school and get together for practice.
- In the process of learning, one develops inner intuition, which one learns to feel and follow. This is a very useful tool that I now apply not only in constellations, but also in my personal life.
- I’m taking with me into my life the main rule of the constellations: “Give thanks for everything”, that’s my motto now!
The main result I would like to point out is that I have been practising this method online and offline since the summer and getting my first money. I now know who I am and where I am going. So with great gratitude for an invaluable year of growth and transformation!
Alina Krasnova, Moscow
The time spent studying flew by quickly. It seems that the first lesson was just a short while ago, and now the supervisory session is approaching! At the same time, the course proved to be profoundly transformative for me. Over the months, my life and character have noticeably changed. Many of the problems that were bothering me went away, my anxiety eased, and I found a new job.
For me it is very valuable that the education in IIS-Berlin is structured by Natalya Spokoinyi in such a way that each student seriously works on themselves throughout the entire course. There are new, stronger and more confident people sitting in the last classes, people who are ready for serious professional work, and I’m very grateful for the opportunity to travel this path with our 9th Stream.
In addition to in-depth personal work, the education itself is built with a strong emphasis on practice. The classes are very intensive. On each one there is a review of theory, of course papers, and of students’ questions, but most of the time is devoted to practical assignments and constellations. So all students immediately put what they have learned to practice. And this, in my opinion, is the most effective method of teaching such a refined and complex tool as Systemic Constellations. Natalia Spokoinyi points out and highlights for the students many subtleties and details of the work right in the process. And in practice details like this can be learned more quickly and on a way deeper level than pure theory.
And practice begins as early as the first classes! So even students who had difficulty sensing the Field learned to feel it in a deep and nuanced way through constant practice. My own sense of the Field got much better, and I learned to discern very subtle nuances in dynamics.
Students practice doing personal constellations both for each other and for invited clients. So it adds on to everyone’s personal work on themselves and to practice working with new, unfamiliar people. This develops our confidence and the ability to find an approach to a wide variety of clients.
The theoretical part of the course is also largely presented through practice. Natalia Spokoinyi not just breaks down the theoretical points, all of them are always complemented by and dissected through many examples of the constellations that Natalia did herself, or from her teachers’ experience. Students review the recordings of a lot of these constellations later on, analyze and dissect them. It gives an amazingly deep understanding of the intricacies of how the core principles of the Systemic Constellations work!
In addition to all of this for a more complete consolidation of theory during the course, all students write several term papers. This is a difficult, serious work, in which we need to analyze both the theoretical knowledge that we have received on the course, and to break down interesting practical examples.
Many of the term papers are group projects, and this kind of work takes a lot of time and requires a lot of diligence and attentiveness. Such in-depth work with material often brings out personal dynamics, blind spots come out, old traumas rise again… This is a real challenge, even for the most diligent students. But it gives everyone the opportunity to work with all of these personal problems right away, while they’re “hot”.
It’s amazing how each lesson brings up something new and interesting, both in terms of knowledge and in the sphere of working on myself. I’m looking forward to the supervisions and the amazing new discoveries they will bring me.
I would like to express my deepest gratitude to Natalia Spokooiniy for such a unique learning experience and the powerful, confident entry into the new profession!
Maria Kyntoyarova, Yakutsk
The online course on “Systemic constellation and trauma therapy” is coming to an end. I would like to note the huge difference between the me who came on this course at the very beginning and me now. This course is really transformational, strengthening spirit, character and endurance. In addition, I solved many of my problems during the course. I would like to express my great gratitude to our teacher Natalia Spokoinyi for this training, for the time and effort given to us and for the experience she gave us.
Our classes were held once a week for 6-7 hours. In addition, we studied with fellow students out of class. We had a lot of homework: several complex coursework, transcriptions, analysis of constellation, reports on constellations, on classes, on the course itself. I even had an image of knowledge clawing its way into our brains.
Our classes consisted mainly of practice. We carried out constellations for each other, and we also had real clients. Natalia talks about her teaching method as follows: “This is when they teach a person to swim and throw him straight to the depths, and he somehow swims out.” So did we, from the first classes, we immediately immersed ourselves in the practice of constellations. Yes, it was very difficult in the beginning. At first, Natalia often told me that I felt dynamics differently from her or other students, and accordingly I worked suboptimally in the constellation. But at some point I had a shift, and I began to succeed. I felt more confident in this field, and Natalia noticed my successes and even began to praise.
We also studied the theory of constellation. We were given the relevant literature, something we studied in class, we learned a lot during transcriptions and writing courseworks. In my opinion, Natalia presents theoretical material very interesting, and this is due to the fact that she is a mathematician in the first education and a theologian in the second. Therefore, we studied the constellations from a scientific and spiritual point of view, which was very useful.
During the course, each student had to go through two personal constellations. I had my first constellation in April on the request “What can I do to transform into my resource the unpleasant symptoms that I have during my speech in public and conflict.” At that time, I was amazed by the outcome of the constellation, everything was so clear that it shocked me. And the most wonderful thing is that I stopped feeling those symptoms. At first it was scary that everything could come back, but Natalia told me what to do if suddenly this happens and added that this was unlikely to happen. I still have to have the second constellation.
I am very glad and even grateful to myself that I chose this institute for training. Learning was not easy and simple, so it is valuable. And I really liked Natalia’s phrase about teaching us: “It’s important to me that you work efficiently and can withstand the hard.” In this phrase, I saw the meaning of our training and how Natalia is rooting and worried about us. I really want to achieve such a level of professionalism to help as many people as possible and be as useful as possible to this world.
Melek Saylan Astana Turkey
I would like to share with you my impressions of the year-long course I learned from Natalia Spokoyniy. I was looking very carefully for training in order to get really practical and extensive knowledge in all areas that would be relevant to my work.
Natalia has a good and special approach to each student. She answers all questions and provides a lot of information. She is really professional and has a lot to learn from her. She gives the lessons at a very high level. Everything is structured, documented and at any moment you can see the material you have learned in the video recordings of each lesson.
The main difference of the course is the abundance of independent practice under Natalia’s supervised guidance. We get almost step-by-step support for our work, enabling us to quickly start practicing on our own.
Natalia teaches us numerous author’s methods of hers.
Orientation of the constellation field to the client’s Highest Value (God, the Highest, Source of Life, Universe, Destiny, etc.).
Work with her author’s BEMS-Model (Body-Emotions-Mind-Spirit) to restore the integrity of the personality after severe trauma.
The author’s format of constellation for working with any conflict – interpersonal or intrapersonal. Her format consists of 4 figures: both sides of the conflict (Figures A and B), the Conflict itself as a Symptom and the Big System including both sides of the conflict and its cause.
And many more of Natalia’s own methods are incorporated into the training process.
For me at first it was almost impossible to comprehend such a volume, to learn, write, and understand everything. I even lost weight and it was hard to sleep, but later as time went on, I realized that Natalia’s German discipline really organized me both physically and mentally, somehow even my brain started to work differently.
It is very important to keep repeating, teaching and not being shy about asking. Everything will work out! Constellations work very well in difficult situations and not only in the family and kin, but also in business and organizations.
I was able to work through my problems with Natalia’s constellations and learn a lot from other constellations where I have been in different roles and have been a constellator myself. I am very grateful to her for that.
I have an unforgettable impression from my two constellations because it was like a miracle, something incredible. When you ask a question in a constellation on one topic and you are led to completely incomprehensible stories and events that came “out of thin air”, you go into a kind of brain freeze. I couldn’t come to my senses for a few days. The essence and understanding came on the third or fourth day, after which so many different feelings and emotions burst out of me that I could not stop them. But what a relief and special understanding came after that! When I told my children about it, they sat with their mouths open and looked as if they were watching an interesting film.
The main thing is that Natalia is always very attentive, prudent, able to wait, to prompt, to guide. It’s as if she knows the script, but she always helped me to feel for myself, to understand the reason and the course of the constellation.
Natalya has a talent for talking about difficult things in simple language, she has a great sense of humour, a huge amount of knowledge and an endless love for people. During the course I understood the effectiveness of the constellations, which help me to grow personally, to understand myself, my family, relationships, to improve my life and the life of my family, to heal wounds, problems, traumas, illnesses, to set up my business for success. Very interesting, useful and important information and training you will receive in a year from Natalia. You will learn how to work on your own in constellations.
Berestova Aleksandra, Lisbon, Portugal
During the course I see the changes in my life in several areas: my personal life, my professional life and my inner sense of self. This is important to me because it shows that the IIS Berlin course is first and foremost about holistic well-being and how to get there.
I originally joined the course because I already work as a psychologist and transformational coach. I already used systemic constellations as a tool in my work, but I wanted to go to another level of work with systems. So I came into the process of learning and working on myself during the course with requests related to my professional field.
But already before the first constellation for me in the client position, thanks to Natasha’s clarifications, we reached a request in the personal sphere. In the end, during the course I worked on improving my professional skills as a systemic constellator and on solving my personal requests for health, relationships and fears at the same time.
Changes in my personal sphere and condition:
- I realized that all my fears in relationships were actually related to my fear of pregnancy. All the bodily symptoms I brought to the constellations also turned out to be about this fear. It was very important and resourceful to notice it.
- I can now think and talk about children. My man proposed to me and we started talking about a future together where we, children and Life exist.
And the changes in my professional field are a consequence of my changed state of mind:
- I used to work only in individual counseling, but now I started group work, because I can comfortably be in a more powerful and large-scale Field, which has increased my income, as constellations are expensive.
- I have implemented the systemic constellation tool in all my services and products.
- I realized that I am ready to develop in the field of perinatal psychology, I am not afraid of it, on the contrary, I am interested. I want this qualification.
I would like to write separately about the learning process. The course has a lot of extensive assignments. And it is very valuable that at each stage Natasha explains and accompanies in detail. And so it turns out that every task is very therapeutic. For example, I had a transcription of a constellation, which was very relevant to my situation, and it was useful to take it apart. Not only from the point of view of gaining a professional skill, although that is important too. When you write a transcription, you see in detail how each participant reacts and this experience helps a lot in the future work. But also from the point of view of personal work with the request.
There is a lot of practice in the course, we do at least one constellation in each session. We analyse in detail the algorithm for working with different client cases on real live clients. This is valuable.
With thanks.
Reports on half of the online course “Systemic Constellation and trauma therapy” class 2022, 9th stream
Dmitri Blizniuc, Chisinau
For me, half of the online course, one might say, flew by, the training took place in such an intensive mode that I didn’t have time to look back, as we were already at the “equator”. It would seem that online learning – you sit in a warm chair in front of the monitor and sip coffee, learn everything calmly as if you are watching a series – is probably how most people imagine it. But this is a huge misconception! I also have a higher education in another field, which I received by attending all the lectures in person, and I can tell you that this training was kindergarten for me compared to how I am now learning systemic constellations online.
Systemic constellations were a new and practically unknown area for me, so at first, I had to concentrate as much as possible and delve into the material. From the very first lesson, I almost immediately plunged into practice, the whole further course is a lot of practice. The knowledge I received was literally hammered into the brain, so after 4-5 lessons I began to feel more confident practising in groups with other students, and systemic constellations began to captivate me even more.The theory, including books of psychology, which I read before online course, I perceived with my head rationally. And the practice, carried out according to the method of Natalia, makes you feel with your whole body everything that is written in a huge number of books, and this, of course, is an irreplaceable experience.
Coaching exists as a full-fledged specialty, and in systemic constellations, coaching is only part of a huge area that includes other specialties as well. Before training, I thought that the client comes to the constellator with a specific request, with which the work in the constellation immediately begins. In fact, it turned out not to be so. Very rarely, a client formulates his request in such a way that he can immediately go in constellation with it, and often clients come without a request at all, just with a set of accumulated problems. This is where coaching comes in handy more than ever. Coaching, which we practise in online classes, helps the client to come to the true problem that he really cares about, and helps to clearly articulate the request. Valuable experience.
Working in the constellation already directly in the role taught me to feel my body, to respond to the smallest details that at first glance do not have much meaning. You follow your breath, your tone of voice, any movements that might be useful in your work. I also learned a lot of new things about my system, which is the foundation on the way to a happy life. I expressed my gratitude to my ancestors, and most importantly, I realised the value of my life.
I cannot fail to note the large amount of homework, term papers, reports and other written work that constantly develop and keep me in good shape, which undoubtedly affects my positive results in practice. Any work, even at first glance seemingly optional, ultimately plays an important role in learning.
The most important thing, in my opinion, for the sake of which they go to learn systemic constellations, is work with traumas. And in this first half of the online course, I managed to work not only with the traumas of clients, other students (under the clear guidance of Natalia, of course), but also with my own traumas. This was very helpful, because the correct working of trauma leads to impressive positive changes in life. And I had the good fortune to experience these changes myself.
Berestova Aleksandra, Lisbon, Portugal
The first thing I want to write about is how the process works:
- We always work out the whole theory in practice. In each class we do a constellation for someone in the group, external clients and so on. And then we discuss it, we look at the important points.
- Before the constellation itself, special attention is paid to the coaching of the client before the constellation, so that the request, which the participant or client comes with, becomes systemic.
- The parallel process of learning is PIR-group, we meet once a week to practise the received material among ourselves. And after class, we deal with complicated cases.
- Natalya pays attention to every question from the group members and is always in touch for clarification if something is unclear.
- Since we all participate in the process not only as students, but also in the role of a client, there is powerful personal work. Which is very valuable.
- It is very intensive in knowledge and at the same time a comfortable learning process.
What are the Results and what has already been done:
- I was in the role of a client on my personal constellation. Ahead of me is the second one and I feel very powerful changes and readiness to go further.
- I have done 5 constellations for my clients and got feedback ,with the value of my work on 9/10. Rated 9, because 10 is hard to carry and you need to digest the whole powerful process that happened. For me, it’s about the professional learning gained from the training.
- I notice changes in my private practice in general, as the sensitivity and ability to «feel» the figures even if not in the constellation work is very much opened and strengthened.
With gratitude and readiness to move on. Thank you.
Gudovskaya Yana, Moscow
Before I knew it, I was halfway through the course. I want to sum it up:
- I became more familiar with my own family system and its dynamics.
- I can definitely say that I feel more confident while I’m coaching and conducting a constellation, and I’m ready to start my own practice.
- Several important instructions were written and put into practice: on dealing with abortions/miscarriages/frozen pregnancies, and on what to do if a constellator/representative is stuck in a role.
- I learned how to properly formulate and say resolution phrases; and what to do if a client has devalued a constellation.
- I learned a lot about the symptom of organization and how it can be transformed into a resource, by analysing an organizational constellation in detail.
- Natalya personally checks all the practical work and gives feedback on it, and it helps us adjust our work in the future.
- Natalia pays special attention to teaching students how to efficiently coach a client before a constellation. With each lesson I add more and more questions for coaching to my collection of knowledge. These questions help clients formulate their requests more clearly, and so yield even greater results from their constellation.
I can point out that Natalia teaches us to work as efficiently as possible, to get to the heart of the problem in the minimum time, so that the client will get the maximum benefit in a short period of time. And that is very valuable!
Working in PIR groups is very valuable to me. I was lucky enough to work with some of the students from our course, and I notice how the girls are developing their professionalism, and it inspires me a lot.
I would also like to note that it is rather difficult for me to study on this course, as the work of mastering the new specialty coincided with the ancestral dynamics, which is now beginning to unravel gradually. So I would like to express my gratitude to Natalia, who is not only a teacher, but also a mentor on this path.
Maria Kintoyarova, Yakutsk
During the half of the course we have completed, Natalia introduced us to such topics as: System, representative perception, the laws of the System, what we need to say to the client before constellation, what the result of the constellation depends on, how to work with any problem with oneself, how to formulate a request correctly, considered in detail the concept of Symptom and how to work with it, as well as the topic of the dynamics of twins, aborted children and miscarriages. Natalia’s comments on many concepts that we touched upon are also very valuable.
Also during this time, we wrote 2 course works on the topics “Christian Forgiveness” and “Symptom of organization”, the writing and analysis of which helped us to better and deeper understand what Systemic Constellation, the sequence of work and many other nuances are.
During the classes, my classmates and I independently carried out constellations for each other under the supervision of Natalia. It was my first time of carrying out the constellation and it was a little exciting for me, but I felt Natalia’s support, she guided and suggested where it was needed.If before I had felt something was incomprehensible, afterwards the experience that i needed to feel internally that it is quite possible to comprehend the constellation.
We have already carried out 4 independent practical work outside of classes. Natalia divided us into groups in which we worked with each other’s requests. The first practice was Systemic coaching, and the rest of the practices already with elements of constellation. The task of the last practice was an individual setting, that is, when the constellater gets into all roles of the constellation.
We had two real clients during classes, one of whom was concerned about her atopic dermatitis and its impact on the child she wore, the other concerned about building harmonious relationship in a couple.
In April, I was given a personal constellation on request: What can I do to transform the unpleasant symptoms I experience during the conflict and public speaking. I can say that I already feel the result, it is such happiness, I cannot stop thanking Natalia for the miracle I felt.
Victoria Jung, Düsseldorf, Germany
Half of our education with Natalia Spokoynaya has already passed. We are already more experienced and trained. Everyone has already got a personal constellation during this time, and some got even several, as in the classes we work with topical requests of students and train to conduct constellations for each other. Personal constellations are important as they are not just a real therapy, but also an opportunity to “be in a client’s shoes”. I believe that such experience is necessary, as it allows you to understand what works and what does not, feel your strengths and weaknesses and develop your own individual style as a future constellations specialist.
A significant work for me was my constellation about my eye disease. On the one hand, this would seem obvious, because the Health topic is always an important one for any person, but on the other hand, this is also a good example of working with complicated family dynamics, with trauma, psychosomatics, and also an example of the impeccable resonance of representatives. I want to note that in all the personal constellations of the students there were difficult dynamics associated with the non-ecological behavior of the members of their genus. But the group and Natalia, as a constellator, managed to carefully examine them and resolve them non-traumatically. I think that after such strong work, all students will see significant changes in their lives.
Another important and interesting point in training is that Natalia periodically invites real clients to our classes, where students have the opportunity to be a constellator. This is an important experience, especially for those who already want to practice. The difference from the common constellations between students in our group is that the atmosphere is more tensed, because there is a time limit, which Natalia is very careful about.
We discussed the topic of abortion and unborn twins at a theoretical lesson, and we had our homework – to write the correct text of resolving phrases for such dynamics. In fact, these are two of the most important topics, since abortion, according to Natalia’s opinion, is perhaps a greatly underestimated dynamic, and the presence of unborn twins in general can most often be determined only in the constellation.
Now we continue with practical classes, but we are no longer limited just to coaching, we also do now short constellations to each other. It is clear that this is not a full constellation, but even such short tests help us to at least determine the direction for analysing, and sometimes even give answers or highlight something important or difficult in the situation.
It is a joy to see how students begin to make progress. And this progress is very noticeable: just yesterday they were worried about the fact that they still knew little, and today they are already doing constellations for invited clients. It is most often difficult for us to assess ourselves impartially, but we can clearly see the progress of our colleagues, which means we are moving in the right direction.
And now we are waiting for the second half of training and for some new challenges.
Yeva Ugurludogan, Izmir Turkey
Halfway through the course at the International Institute for Systemic Constellation (IIS-Berlin) has passed. We saw the dynamics of abortion and unborn twins. We studied the serious topic of unborn children. It came to us that it is important to let them go and make room in your heart.
The bottom line is this. Let’s say when you were still an embryo, you had a twin brother. And then it happened that he had to sacrifice himself for your life. You would most probably be haunted by sadness and guilt and the feeling of not living your life. I have observed this kind of thing in the work of a fellow student of mine who was one of these twins. As she claims, she felt better after studying the topic.
It is important to recognise these unborn children, to give them a place in the System: both when they are your brother or sister and when you are the unborn parents of twins. And parents may not experience the full extent of their feelings and pass on the oppressive sadness to their grandchildren and great-grandchildren. Generally speaking, everything that concerns children in the constellation system is invariably reflected in our money and projects. As plots and businesses are also our children.
Abortion used to be considered commonplace and there was no time to mourn the unborn. Almost every family had many children, and women worked all the time. No one knew that they had to grieve for the little lives that had been lost prematurely. If the client feels the tension in his or her situation and sees problems in his or her own children, they need to make room in their heart. Then it often becomes easier for them, their children and the generations that follow.
I have learned to be guided by Spiritual Values, to see how much (in degrees of deviation from the Highest Will) the request is true. That is, the Facilitator turns to the Will of the Highest Spiritual Values by how many degrees this statement or this choice was true . And the closer the choice to the Highest Will is, the more accurate is the Client’s request. The position of the body is always true. The body can never lie as Spiritual Values are the foundation. It also allows focusing on what is most important. In the constellation a person is reminded of God and about Truth.
The group and I have been studying the BEMS-Model – BODY-EMOTIONS-MIND-SPIRIT-Model in detail. It is a 4-part BEMS-Model for restoring personal integrity after severe trauma. The BEMS-Model is designed to test and restore integrity between our internal parts. It allows us to quickly recover from trauma, transform it into a resource and not have to deal with years of therapy. I have also learned the elements of implementation and how to work with this model in an organisation (there is such a concept – “trauma or a symptom of the organisation”). This approach restores relationships in the organisation and enables each member to take their place.
I had a personal job associated with depression. Fortunately, I came out of it. Admittedly, the exit and recovery process was hard and stressful. Then it was bad for a long time. But I guess the result was worth the effort.
I cannot say anything about the result of the test work as it was done for my mother. She has a problem with her retina, which started to detach due to a head injury. The conclusion of the test was the information about a doctor to look for in Moscow. But my mother never went to see that doctor. Probably because she did not follow the recommendations of the constellation she had to undergo so many operations. If we don’t follow the recommendations from the constellation, we pay for our Choice.
What did I learn in the class? It is about defending my point of view, have conflicts, not letting someone else take my mother’s place. And I also learnt how to build boundaries and openly show my disagreement. Perhaps this was a really unique course. I’m grateful to myself for standing up to the challenge. Thank you.
Reports on the first block of the course, class 2022, 9th stream
Gudovskaya Yana, Moscow
As I finish the first part of the course, I want to write about the changes I’ve had.
Despite all the contradictions and obstacles on my path, when I made the decision to buy this course, internally I was 100% sure that it was a step into my new life. It worked out just like that!
On the course, every lesson is a practice: practice in coaching, practice in Systemic Constellations, practice in reading the Field, and practice in working with a client. Every week we learn something new! And every time I learn something new about myself: the reasons for my behavior in this or that situation, the cause-and-effect relationship of events occurring in my life, how the relationships in my family change, how those around me change their attitude toward me, etc. At some points I see real miracles that happen after constellations.
In my case, it was the relationship with my husband. Before the course I had a lot of thoughts about divorce, but after several constellations I started to see our relationship differently, realizing that we can start moving towards a new life together! I reconsidered my role in the family, understood the reasons for the discrepancies in our union, and realized what points I still needed to look at and work on.
The second aspect of the changes concerned my personal transformation and values in life. I decided to leave my previous job and the field of employment where I had worked for more than 15 years, and devote my future life to the Systemic Constellations. I believe it is one of the quickest and most effective ways to look at any problem, at its cause and ways to solve it. And when, after a constellation your behavior towards the situation or the person becomes different, when your views change, new desires and thoughts, new discoveries emerge – you begin to believe in miracles!
Miracles begin as early as when you observe the work of the morphogenetic field. For instance, when in another student’s constellation, the important moments that you need to look at are echoed and illuminated. You are literally placed into the role of the representative for the figure you need to work with in your own family system. When you stand in the role of a representative, you feel your own trauma. And as you say the resolving phrases, you simultaneously say them to your own father, not just to the client’s. And so, while resolving another person’s request, you live through your own physical catharsis.
Practical work with classmates gives you confidence, and an extra push to start your own practice. And all of this was done in 10 classes!
On the 4th lesson already, a real client came to us and we helped him solve his problem! I am focused on achieving a total transformation, and I know for sure that I’ve come to the right place!
Maria Kintoyarova, Yakutsk
We got a lot of information, knowledge and skills during these first classes. We have studied such concepts as – system, representative perception, the laws of the system, what you need to say to the client before constellation, what the result of the constellation depends on, as well as how you can work with any problem.
At the beginning of each lesson, as well as after the constellation and at the end of the lesson, we make a so-called “circle”, during which we, students, coach each other and give feedback on the constellation and the whole lesson. The circle helps a lot to consolidate the experience gained, as well as to work out yourself during coaching. It is also very important that we have learned to correctly formulate our requests and symptoms, which play a key role in the constellation.
In many classes, we have already held constellations for some students, as well as the constellation for a real client. Natalia gives very capacious remarks and comments during the constellation, which explain to us what this or that action, question or phrase for.
I want to write something personal. My last request during the circle was: What can I do to start breathing full nose and chest in every sense? The fact is that I am sometimes tormented by the congestion of the nose of an incomprehensible nature. A couple of days after class, I had a dream that it was happening to me because someone drowned in my family. In the morning I woke up with an incredible insight, I would never have thought. My dad’s younger brother, my uncle drowned. I will definitely discuss it in the next class with Natalia and my classmates.
Natalia is a high-class professional both an constellater-therapist and a teacher. Each lesson is very informative and exciting. It’s a great luck for me that I study here.
Aksana Heise
During my training I learned about the author ‘s method of the 4- part model “Body-Emotion-Mind-Spirit” by Natalia Spokoinyi. Working on this model helps to gently enter the client’s system, look together with him or her at the trauma that caused the symptom and transform it into a resource. Trauma always splits the wholeness. 4-part model helps to look at the wholeness of an organization and quickly find the true cause of the trauma as well as understand how to find the necessary resources. In the organization, trauma splits the internal parts: Body, Emotions, Intellect and Spirit. When using the 4-part model, you immediately understand what to do and where to go, everything becomes clear.
During this time I did two constellations. I enjoyed being the facilitator, it was incredibly interesting. I realized that a facilitator is a versatile person who is successful in many areas. First, it’s about time management. A facilitator has to manage time properly and manage to get more done in less time, even when time is limited and pressure is high.
Secondly, a facilitator can be compared to a film director. Under his or her guidance, roles are assigned and figures of representatives play their role during a constellation. The basis of a constellation is a life scenario authored by a client.
Third, a facilitator must be able to think strategically and see things in perspectives. This ability helps a facilitator identify points that are not obvious or confusing to a client.
Fourth, a facilitator belongs to the category of highly sensitive people or, as they say, people with “thin skin”. Highly sensitive people have keen sense of elusive environments, they see details and understand what is going on without words. Hypersensitive people develop creative abilities because of their characteristics. This allows a facilitator to be in all roles during a constellation without any problems.
I took the opportunity to participate in the Аcademy, where you can make statements about important things that are happening in the world. It helps me to identify global trends and get an objective picture of what is happening in the world. With the help of the Аcademy, we make the world around us better and more harmonious.
Natalia did the constellation for me about my fear of flying, which is related to flying in airplanes. We are all part of our family, extension of our family. I hadn’t even thought of that before. I thought I was alone. In my constellation, I found loving and warm memories of my beloved grandmother Tonya and learned a little about my great-grandmother’s life. Unfortunately, before the course, I did not know my family’s history. Thanks to the course I started to learn a little bit about my family and I have already created a simple genogram of my family. Now I have the goal to learn all the information about my family in detail. For me it was the first constellation in my life. I really appreciate all the information and resources from my constellation. Many thanks for my constellation to all who participated. For me, this is invaluable work that Natalia and my colleagues have done.
Many thanks to Natalia Spokoinyi for working on my constellation, supporting and helping me to overcome my inner resistance. Natalia will always find time and words to give support and wise advice in difficult situations.
Victoria Jung, Düsseldorf, Germany
I was familiar with constellations even before meeting Natalia. At first I came to the constellations as a client with my own requests. I really liked the method itself, but it was very difficult to find a good, professional and trustworthy specialist.
At some point, I decided that I needed to study. It is because I really believe that constellations are the most effective method of working through issues nowadays, and it will also become even more popular in the future. And then I faced another difficult choice – where to study. All sources of knowledge seemed unreliable to me, it seemed that they either studied the method superficially, or added something of their own there. I was lucky – I found Natalya Spokoynaya.
I came here specifically for fundamental knowledge of constellations, because Natalia had the best teachers, and in fact took knowledge from the original source. This is always appreciated in the profession and actually creates a competitive advantage for a specialist.
Nevertheless, Natalia has her own style – her own developed system, approach. This is a kind of multidimensional constellation, as if a 3D model, where several plot scenarios are intertwined. This makes the study deeper and takes it to a new level.
Natalia always gives more practice, much more than you can get in other schools. Here I am talking about both practice and theory, built on real cases from her experience.
We started practicing right away. Everything that Natalya explains to us, we immediately bring to real cases, Natalya believes in her students, motivates them immediately to start to do constellations under her supervision. Therefore, students very quickly begin to gain hours of experience without staying too long in theory.
Thus, it turns out that at each lesson we are either a constellator ourselves, or we are in some role. Usually the roles also always resonate with some kind of internal request, so the course is a kind of personal therapy. Each session is like going to a psychologist – an opportunity to look deep into yourself and work through your traumas and dynamics. Only it is much faster and more efficient.
I already had a personal constellation on a very important topic for me – my daughter’s dermatitis. It is interesting that I already did the constellation for this request with another specialist. I believe that she also helped, but this time we managed to go further and recognized the heavy burden of my family – unborn and dead children. It turned out that in my family there was a very large number of unborn and even excluded children, they definitely had to be accepted so that this would not affect me and my daughters. Everything that the representatives said resonated with me, and the scale of the impact of this dynamic was amazing. At some point, it seemed that the constellation had reached a dead end, but Natalia professionally invested the necessary energy to reach the correct interpretation. After a short time, I already saw positive changes on my daughter’s skin.
I also wanted to note the incredible resonance between the students in our group. The way we feel in roles and our assumptions always match. This becomes possible because of the talent of the students, but also because of the comfortable trusting atmosphere in the group.
An interesting and new discovery for me was short test constellations. Often, for students, we test the best possible options in a given situation. I also got a test on the need to move to another city for my family. I want to say that in fact this is a serious help in making any difficult life-changing decisions.
It is important to do homework in this course. This is not necessary in all schools, but here it is. Homework helps to analyze and once again feel the material you have learned, and also teaches you to notice the smallest important details of the constellations, which are often turning points in the process.
And finally, Natalia creates a very strong professional space. She knows how to gather talented students and professionals around her, as well as clients with incredibly interesting cases.It is not for everyone, and I think it works here because Natalia herself is a real professional.
I am very glad to study here, soon – more! Thank you.
Yeva Ugurludogan, Izmir Turkey
I have been looking for a long time for a quality certified education which can give enough information on systemic constellations. I have been familiar with the method of systemic constellations for about five years. Personally for me it is a powerful boost in my life, a positive change in my environment, adaptation in a new country. The method allows me to improve my relationship with my family, to better understand myself and others. Thanks to it I got a new profession.
On the course I get a lot of useful information that I need as a facilitator. I get into important details for work with the Soul and Subconsciousness of a person. And this is such a subtle matter! The classes teach us to ask questions, to want more, to always have a ready request for work. They prepare us to see requests with more energy. And also to save time and ask the client so as to see the important thing that allows you to solve the request.
In the second session I formed my request about the fear of public speaking. And it all worked out so that I was on duty, conducted the constellation and even was a representative for the main roles. It turned out that I was in the public eye throughout the session and didn’t experience any excitement or discomfort. And then I realised that public speaking is safe.
For me the constellation of Trauma became useful. And it was really hard work under the guidance of Natalia Spokoynyi. After all, it is important to understand how deeply a constellator can get to the root and essence of the Client’s problem. And how to understand HOW much the Client is ready to cope with his or her acceptance of the result of the constellation.
In the course I became familiar with the orientation of the field of constellation to the Highest Values of the Client. And this is one of the features invented by Natalia herself. Besides, I got Natalia’s view of what is essentially Christian Forgiveness. And how you can and should really forgive. I will definitely use this knowledge in my future work and practice. All this was new to me.
German systematicity, pedantry and discipline were important for me. The way I see it, success is based on continuity, which you have to demand first of all from yourself. I am sure this system will help me to keep track of my clients and their progress in detail.
For me small training groups where the trainer is involved in the education process as much as possible are important. Then it is difficult to miss something meaningful. There should be a lot of reflection and practice in such groups. And a detailed analysis of workshops and constellations under the guidance of a teacher allows you to learn the method at a high quality level. This is the uniqueness and intellectual power of IIS-Berlin.